Press Release
September 30, 2010

TRANSCRIPT OF INTERVIEW WITH SENATOR
TG GUINGONA AFTER JUETENG HEARING

Q: Yung affidavit ni Tony boy. Hindi niyo na siya ipapatawag?

STLG: Hindi na because what we said anyone who's name is on the list can appear anytime. It's his choice. He can submit a letter or affidavit. It's their choice. In the case of Toni boy, he has submitted the letter but he comes back and wishes to appear then he is very welcome.

Q: Are you satisfied with his explanation?

STLG: I'll take it as that. We can ask him later if there is clarificatory questions. I'll take it as that.

Q: Sa kaso ni Versoza, susulatan niyo ba ang Bureau of Immigration para ilagay siya sa watchlist?

STLG: Yes, because we want to know if he is in fact out of the country. Say so lang ng mga tao doon sa bahay niya. The Bureau of Immigration would be the best agency to tell us whether in fact he is abroad or not.

Q: Si Sec. Robredo and PCSO they are saying na kaya naman icub ang jueteng kung papalakasin lang ang STL. They are not in favour sa legalization of jueteng.

 STLG: Well something new came up and this right along the alley of Senator Marcos why don't we localized the decision as to wheter we came it legal or illegal. Hindi na sa national. Sa local na lang. That's a novel idea. It's certainly worth looking into.

Q: Yung mga jueteng operator na licensed to operate STL, ano dapat doon? Automatic alisin?

STLG: Yung nga sabi ko nga dapat i-cross reference sila with the PNP and let the PNP cross refer it with the jueteng list that they have. Several list that everybody has submitted. Find out kung maverify ba talaga na may jueteng operations. If they found that may jueteng operations then PCSO should cancel the grants of the STL's. Dapat may inter-agency coordination eh. BIR, PNP, AMLA. All those. We must also take into account what Archbishop Cruz said . If you legalized one activity what new activity will come up and will be illegal. We might end up legalizing and legalizing and end up as a whole country of gambling culture. So we have to take look at that.

Q: (inaudible)

STLG: Yun nga, we have to take that away because of the Supreme Court decision which we have to make an amendment to the law that says that there will be no need of notification. Parang ganito diba : uy, papaalam ako sa iyo . Iimbestigahan kita.

Q: You have to delete that provision?

STLG: That's not a provision, it's a supreme court decision therefore we have to make a new law that will overwrite the supreme court decision.

Q: In the AMLA that they have. The lawmakers were the one who make those provisions again.

STLG: Then it was taken up.

Q: So it has to be notify?

STLG: No, it was a supreme court decision.

Q: So, kailangan talaga ng new law?

STLG: New law.

Q: Sa BIR naman annong klaseng reform para the BIR can also track money?

STLG: Ang principal na hihirapan ang BIR sa cooperation ng iba't ibang agencies so we can give more teeth to the BIR that if these agencies do not comply with the certain period of time then may pananagutan ang heads of agencies. Kasi sa ngayon binubukas bukas lang daw sila eh. Balik ka bukas, balik ka bukas for the information they need so they can do their (inaudible).

Q: The jueteng lords are not likely to fall under the radar of the because they don't declare income from..

STLG: Yes, but they have assets and assets have record especially the real estate, cars, condominiums. Lifestyle cards, credit cards. The way we use them. Electric bills. .. There's so many other ways of skinning a cat. Ika nga.

Q: Annong klaseng remedial legislation sa lifestyle check?

STLG: I think off hand, I would be giving a lot of teeth to the BIR so these other agencies whether private or government can be mandated to comply with the request for information. Kasi information lang naman ang kailangan ng BIR tapos kino cross reference sila . Pero ang problema hindi binibigay agad. Sinasabi balik ka na lang next week. Binubukas bukas sila eh.

Q: So kailngan niyan mandatory?

STLG: Mandatory dapat.

Q: On open invitation.

STLG: Written invitation pa ang ibibigay namin. So that means they can or can not go. Invitation yan puwede tanggihan.

Q: Pero puwede mag submit ng letter?

STLG: Yun iba kasi ayaw magsalita dahil nahihiya at natatakot. Puwede naman gumawa ng letter or kung gusto nila affidavit puwede.

Q: Yung ginawa ng AMLA dahil may declaration lang si General Bataoil.

STLG: Malabo yun.

Q: Paano yun sir, balewala na yung ginawa niyong efforts?

STLG: They said that was before we will admonished din sa report naming and sa hearing sa AMLA law we will take that up again kasi may hearing nga . Babaguhin ang AMLA batas at titgnan naming kung bakit nangyari yun at bakit pumayag sila na basta may declaration . Malabo talaga iyon. Hindi puwede iyon.

Q: On hindi pagsipot ngbinigyan ng subpoena.

STLG: Wala pa naman hindi sumisipot na sinubpoena namin. Wala pang sina subpoena.

Q: How about General Versoza?

STLG: Hindi naserve yung subpoena so technically wala pang contemptuous acts kasi wala aiya doon eh. Iba yung bingyan ka ng subpoena nandiyan ka tapos hindi ka sumipot. Iba iyon. Pero once na nangyari iyon. Puwede iyon.

Q: Purpose on issuing subpoena.

STLG: Ang purpose ng subpoena para malaman naming kung totoo ban a umalis sa bansa. Kasi sabi sabi lang ng andoon eh.

Q: Wala pa siyang binigay na letter?

STLG: Ngayon , today we have a letter from the lawyer. Hindi ko pa nababasa. We just received it kanina sa hearing.

Q: Ilang hearing pa tayo?

STLG: Will see as to how everything goes kasi we have some other resource persons we're calling. Meron pang mga resource persons na iimbitahan. Lalong lalo na yung sistema . Medyo gory pa yung sistema. Yun ang importante. Yung STL pero kulang pa sa detalye magsalita yung mga STL.

Q: Sinong iimbitahan niyo sa jueteng?

STLG: Madaming resource persons eh .

Q: Nagiging front ang STL.

STLG: Hindi lang implementation. Kailnagan baguhin ang sistema. Mayroon nagsasabi na ilocalized na lang,. Ioverhaul

Q: Ioverhaul meaning panibagong law?

STLG: Oo, panibagong law. Panibagong sistema. Hindi naman panibagong law kasi authorized na sila. Panibagong sistema na sila mismo ang mag propose at kami ang mag evaluate.

Q: So amendment yun.

STLG: Sa sistema. Pero maganda yung ngayon puwede bang ibigay sa local government yung dilemma whether to legalized jueteng.

Q: Narinig niyo na ba na yung information na Robredo received money from Atong Ang?

STLG: No, I don't. Ngayon ko lang narinig iyan.

Q: Pag binigay sa local , sa mayor?

STLG: I suppose. He is the chief executive. The mayor will be the one and the city council .

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